Most people don’t give much thought to how they’ll spend their money. A substantial portion of many budgets pays for beer,cigarettes, parties, entertainments, gambling, hookers,kabit, sabit,pastor,ministers,pader and televangelists. If this describes your spending pattern, then the government probably wouldn’t do worse than that with your money. Taxes are the government’s gentle way of trying to make productive use of money that represents a surplus that you don’t really need in order to maintain a minimal standard of living on a par with the average person.But most don’t want to take the time or responsibility to investigate where their tax money goes.
Lacson has said on his privilege speech “I will not and cannot abandon the cause of the tens of thousands or millions of Filipino taxpayers and allow them to be left at the mercy of a systematically flawed and corrupt national budget. This is one fight I will never run away from, as I have never run away from all my previous fights against graft and corruption.”
Yes our taxes are used ostensibly to fund local public works, like roads, schools, and jails. There are a lot of good things that come of paying taxes, but there’s a lot of money wasted or spent inefficiently in the process. Still, it would be hard for all of us to maintain the roads by ourselves without a big bureaucratic engine helping us. In fact, none of us would have a private incentive to do so, and that is why the government takes on certain infrastructure tasks. Like building bridges to nowhere and C-5 road going to Villar’s land and Villarde.
But, why Churches and religions are exempted from paying taxes? They are also using the same roads and jails funded by our tax money. Churches should be taxed like any other business. Like any other business, let them write off any charity work that they do. Churches are businesses. They do not exist solely to bring people to God, they exist to bring people to God and to generate income for the employees and officers of the church. Just as the “Lechon ni Mang Tomas” exists to bring affordable prices of litson to people and to generate income for the hog killers and litsuneros.
To automatically give them a free ride makes no sense. They don’t have to pay property tax, sales tax, income tax, and all the other taxes that you and I and the store down the road pays. If a church is selling baked goods,rosario and estampitas they don’t pay taxes, if “Tatang’s Bakery” is selling pandesal and monay, they pay taxes. Churches should be taxed because it is the right thing to do. There is simply no good reason why churches should be tax-exempt. The tax exemption given to churches harms the rest of us: because they do not pay taxes on the assets they own, all the rest of us must pay higher taxes to make up for that lost revenue. This ought to irk believers enough, knowing that they are paying more because of the vast assets owned by rival churches, but atheists are harmed worst of all. Having no equivalent organizations that are free to raise money and acquire assets with such abandon, we are in effect subsidizing all tax-exempt religious activity, to the tune of millions or billions.This baseless and unconstitutional discrimination should be ended immediately. Church tax exemptions also tilt the playing field and violate the principles of the free market. Allowing churches to buy up as much land as they want, and hold it forever without paying taxes, stifles the ability of other people to make meaningful use of that property in the future and grants churches an unfair advantage when providing social services that compete with other businesses. Even worse, churches are also unfairly exempt from many licensing and regulation requirements that all other types of businesses must comply with. Churches are even exempt from taxes on side assets like parking lots.
There can be no justification for this special treatment. Religious groups have been given a free ride for far too long just because they are religious. If churches want to take part in our society, they should contribute to its upkeep just like everyone else. It is time to tax the religion sects of Mike Villarde, Manalo,Rosales,Villanueva, Soriano,Ruben Ecleo and the rest of the cults, giving tax-exempt status to them is a double-edged sword like any other privilege.They get power, power to choose their puppet candidates to vote in office, but it comes with strings attached or a blank check. And yeah, it wouldn’t be popular if government told churches who they can and cannot hire.This is what happens in our political arena. Everyone’s fighting over everyone else’s endorsement. Churches need local law enforcement protection like everyone else because people set churches on fire and bombs.
These people coining the Bible and wearing robes delve into politics and often they have more assets than they offer up to charity. They can pay out billions to defend their preachers or pay off whistle blowers, they get their coffers pilfered by their own brethren and they get land donations worth far more than most of us will make in a year. And, you can become an ordained minister of your own religion and claim tax-exempt status with very little effort and paperwork. It’s just not proper.
The biblical teaching on taxation begins in Genesis 41:34 with the introduction of the first recorded national tax on personal income, property, and resources.
a) The problem
Pharaoh had a dream. In it were seven thin cows and seven fat cows. In his dream, the seven thin cows ate the seven fat cows. Then he dreamed about seven thin ears of grain that devoured seven fat ears of grain. Pharaoh was at a loss to interpret his dream (Gen. 41:1-8). But Joseph was able to interpret the dream for him. The seven skinny cows eating the seven fat cows and the seven thin ears of grain eating the seven fat ears of grain indicated that there would be seven years of plenty followed by seven years of famine (vv. 29-30).
b) The plan
How were they going to prepare for the seven years of famine? Joseph’s plan is indicated in verse 34, “Let Pharaoh do this, and let him appoint officers over the land, and take up the fifth part of the land of Egypt in the seven plenteous years.” Twenty percent of everyone’s agricultural profit was laid in store for use during the seven years of famine. That was the initiation of the first recorded personal taxation system in a nation. And this was a pagan nation, not Israel. Egypt did not worship God. Nonetheless, taxation was an institution of God begun by God’s choice servant Joseph to the advantage of Pharaoh and his land.
c) The profit
Verses 53-56 say, “And the seven years of plenteousness, that was in the land of Egypt, were ended. And the seven years of famine began to come, according as Joseph had said: and the famine was in all lands; but in all the land of Egypt there was bread. And when all the land of Egypt was famished, the people cried to Pharaoh for bread: and Pharaoh said unto all the Egyptians, Go unto Joseph; what he saith to you, do. And the famine was over all the face of the earth. And Joseph opened all the storehouses, and sold unto the Egyptians; and the famine was severe in the land of Egypt.” When the famine became severe, the government provided what the people needed and made an immense profit. Verse 57 says, “All countries came into Egypt to Joseph to buy grain; because the famine was so severe in all lands.”
d) The performance
Genesis 47:13-14 says, “There was no bread in all the land; for the famine was very severe, so that the land of Egypt and all the land of Canaan fainted by reason of the famine. And Joseph gathered up all the money that was found in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, for the grain which they bought; and Joseph brought the money into Pharaoh’s house.” Then verse 26 says, “Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part; except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaoh’s.” Religious officials were set aside from taxation, but everyone else paid tax of twenty percent. That became Egyptian law.
You say, “How do you know taxation was an institution of God?” Because God’s servant Joseph instituted it. God was setting a pattern for future governments. The resources of their people could be collected, and distributed back to them when there was a need. Government is truly an institution of God, and it incorporated the concept of taxation as early as the book of Genesis.
2. In Israel
When God established the nation of Israel, did He have a taxation system?
a) The Lord’s tithe
Leviticus 27 records the initiation of a taxation system in the nation of Israel. It became an essential part of life. Verses 30-31 say, “All the tithe [a tenth] of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, it is the Lord’s: it is holy unto the Lord. And if a man will at all redeem any of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.” If you said, “I don’t want to give any grain; I would like to give money instead,” then you had to add a fifth to the tenth because they wanted the actual commodity. They were to give a tenth of everything each year. This tax was called the Lord’s tithe, because it was holy to the Lord (v. 30). It was even called the Levite tithe because the tenth was given to the Levites (Num. 18:21-24).
Cocoy,
Kawawa naman ang mga nagsisimba kung patawan ng buwis ang simbahan.Biruin mo,dalawang beses na nga silang nagpapaikot ng basket tuwing misa.Kapag binuwisan mo iyan magiging tatlo hangang apat na beses na.Mauubos ang aking sensilyo sa pitaka na nakasukbit sa aking bra.
Dalian na ninyong mag post ng comment ninyo bago dumating si renato.HIHIHIHIHIH>
Sa akin naman, sang-ayon akong dapat magbayad ng buwis ang mga simbahan. Pero ang tanong: Papayag ba sila? Sisingilin ba ng gobyerno ang mga simbahan? Ang sagot: HINDI. Simula pa noong unang panahon, ang naghahari sa mundo at mga bansa ay mga simbahan. Mula sa Europa hanggang Asia, nakadikit ang mga simbahan sa pamahalaan. Halimbawa sa Pilipinas na lang, pansinin niyo na sa bawa’t city o municipal hall ay may nakatabing kapilyo ng Katoliko. Sila ba ay tumutulong sa city hall o nagbabantay? Hindi lang nagbabantay kundi nakikialam sa gawain ng lokal ng pamahalaan. Simula nang dumating ang mga Kastila, gaano karaming lupa na sinamsam sila para ibigay sa Simbahang Katoliko? Mula Luzon hanggang Mindanao, malaking mga lupa ang pagmaymay-ari ng Simbahan. Di kataka-taka na tutol ang CBCP at mga Obispo na ibigay sa MILF o mga Muslim ang mga teritorio sa Mindanao dahil mga inagaw na lupa iyon ng Simbahan.
Ang pag-angkin ng mga lupain ay hindi lang naman mga taga-Simbahang Katoliko. Pati na ang mga ibang sektang relihiyon tulad ng El Shaddai at INK. Okay na sana kung pag-aari nila at hindi magbayad ng buwis pero huwag naman sila makialam sa pulitika o pamamalakad ng gobyerno. Tulad na lang ng mga Pari at itong El Shaddai, lantarang lumulusob sa Kongreso at nag-iingay kontra sa batas ng Reproductive Health Bill. Bakit nila hindi hayaan ang mga taga-gobyerno na tumalakay sa bagay na iyan?
Eto naman El Shaddai, hindi lang sa hindi nagbabayad ng buwis, ang lider mismo ay isang negosyante na may-ari ng maraming real estates. Tapos, sangkot pa sa anomalya. Sa laki ng nilikom na pera mula sa mga kaanib, kahit isang maliit na kapilya ay hindi nagpatayo kundi nagkakalat sa publikong lugar na pag-aari ng gobyerno. Puro pasok ang pera eh wala naman nilalabas. Puro libre at kumikita pa. Buti pa ang INK, nakikita natin ang mga malalaki at magagandang kapilya sa buong bansa pati na sa iba’t panig ng mundo. Balita ko binabayaran ng INK ang mga tinayong mga gusali ng cash; walang utang o financing. Lahat iyan ay galing sa mga abuloy ng mga kaanib. Balita ko din hindi humihingi ng abuloy ang INK sa pribadong kompanya, sa gobyerno, pa-raffle, bingo o mga concert para lang lumikom ng pera. Hindi sila tumatanggap ng tulong mula sa Pagcor at mga casino na gaya ng Simbahang Katoliko. Ewan ko kung tutoo pero balita iyan sa akin ng isang pinagkakatiwalaang kaibigan. Ngayon pa man, nakikialam din ang INK sa pulitika…iyon nga lang pino at di garapal.
Sang ayon ako sa lahat ng sinabi mo artsee.Pogi kang talaga at nadedelop na ang paghanga ko sa ganda ng isip mo.HIHIHIHIHIH>
kimuchi,
Matalino naman talaga iyang si artsee kung seryoso siya.Kaya lang inuuna niya ang kakengkoyan niya.hahahaha!
Peace artsee.
Salamat sa mga papuri niyo. Hindi naman kayo nagkakamali…talagang magaling ako. Di niyo alam na ako ang close adviser ni Cocoy. Ako din ang nagsabi sa kanya na i-ban si Renata dito. Pero di niyo alam na may sira ang ulo ni Renata. Suicidal daw iyan. Sana huwag siyang magpakamatay. Alang-alang sa buhay niya, baka pabalikin na namin siya sa CD. Pero pipirma siya sa isang kasunduan na hindi na siya manggugulo dito. Payag ba kayo? Kung minsan kasi, isang gawaing Kristiyano din ang magpatawad sa sira ulo. Kahit na ba isa siyang matandang bakla, nilalang din siya ng Diyos.
artsee,
may pusong mamon ka rin pala.Agree ako sa iyo na tangapin ng buong-buo si renato kahit na ano man ang pinagdaanan niya at pagkatao.Baka nga makatulong tayo sa kapansanan niya ay malaking grasya sa Diyos.
Ako rin agree.Kawawa naman pala si renato.Wala ng nagmamalasakit sa kanya.Nilayasan siya ng kanyang asawa at ang masakit ay itinakwil pa siya ng bugtong niyang anak kesyo hindi raw siya ang ama niya.
Kung sinabi lang ni pareng cocoy ang pinagdaan ni renato,sana hindi na ako pumirma sa napagkasunduan sa board meeting.Kaya pala panay ang pakiusap ni pareng cocoy sa atin na unawain na lang natin si renato.
Kaya nga hindi pa ako pumipirma.HIHIHIHIHIHIH>
Kapag mag file ng motion for reconsideration si sumulong baka nga maabswelto si renato dahil ang binabalak na argument na binabalangkas ni sumulong ay plead of insanity.HIHIHIHIHIHIH>
Oy kayo ha! tumigil na nga kayong tatlo.Pinagtutulungan ninyo si Atong.May deperensya na nga eh! Higit niyang kailangan ang ating tulong.
Dapat lang na magbayad ng buwis ang mga simbahan, kahit anupang simbahan. Iyan ang tama.
Ang problema, naging fixture na sila sa Pinoy politics bilang ma-impluwensyang sektor kaya walang lider na malakas ang loob o merong political will na sila ay sampalin ng taxes.
Isang lider na hindi aasa sa back up ng simbahan ang kailangan ng Pinoy, yung walang utang na loob na babayaran sa simbahan para maisakatuparan ang tunay ang separation ng simbahan at estado.
Sino kaya yun? May ganyan kayang lider-pinoy?
Chi,
Sa nakikita ko sa mga pulitikong himod puwit sa simbahan ay si Lacson lang siguro ang may malaking bayag na maninindigan liban kay FPJ.
Tithing…10% of one’s salary goes to his church as “Lord’s tithe”.
Iba ang intindi ko riyan. It was made up tax only for the interest of those running the church then.
Kung iyan man ay nasa Bibliya, sorry to say that I don’t agree. I wanted to believe that one’s contribution to his/her church, no matter how small or big, is an act of GENEROSITY and not a forced obligation.
Greggy,
Salamat, kahit nasa kabilang buhay na ang aking presidente ay hindi ko malilimutan na hindi siya lumuhod sa anumang simbahan para siya ay suportahan.
Naghahanap ng kakampi si renato doon sa blog ni Yhen.Kawawang renato palaboy laboy na lang at kumakatok sa mga pintuan at nanghihingi ng limos.
artsee,galit si renato sa atin at nagsusumbong siya kay yhen.Ingat ka lang Colegiala girl,kapitan,segundina,doc.bobonyo at joeseg sa pagsagot ng door bell baka bigla na lang siyang papasok sa inyo.HIHIHIHIH>
I’m sure, hindi siya makakapasok kay doc.bobonyo. Ang higpit ng pintuan ng langit dun.
Mga kasama, sorry at ngayon lang tayo dahil nakipagpulong ako sa hepe DepEd dahil pinagigiba nila ang eskuwelahan sa ibang barangay at dito sa Kidlatan itatambak ang kanilang mga pupils. May galit talaga si Mayor sa akin dahil gusto niyang gawing lata ng sardinas ang aming mga classrooms sa dami ng mga pupils, hahaha. Gusto kong pasyalan si Mar Roxas para alamin ang kanyang reaction sa pagamyenda ng batas na ipinasa sa Kongreso ng kanyang erpat noong araw.
Naku kimuchi kung sa magkaibigang Colegiala at Secondlady si brother Rene papasok baka pakainin pa iyan at painumin ng mainit na barakong kape. Masyadong maunawain ang mga graduates ng socio-behavioral science, hehehe.
Churches are tax exempt under the principle that there is no surer way to destroy the free exercise of religion than to tax it. If the government is allowed to tax churches (or to condition a tax exemption on a church refraining from the free exercise of religion), the camel’s nose is under the tent, and its body is sure to follow. But that’s not just my opinion; it’s the understanding of the U.S. Supreme Court.
In its 1970 opinion in Walz vs. Tax Commission of the City of New York, the high court stated that a tax exemption for churches “creates only a minimal and remote involvement between church and state and far less than taxation of churches. [An exemption] restricts the fiscal relationship between church and state, and tends to complement and reinforce the desired separation insulating each from the other.” The Supreme Court also said that “the power to tax involves the power to destroy.” Taxing churches breaks down the healthy separation of church and state and leads to the destruction of the free exercise of religion.
God knows Hudas not pay their taxes correctly.
Pasensiya na po at ngayon lang tayo nakapasok muli dahil naimbita po tayo na magsalita sa isang forum tungkol sa Filipino Values at the Workplace. Kasama ko iyong dalagang sinisinta dito, hehehe.
Anyway, may bagong poste tayo ngayon dahil naingangyo na naman tayo ni Carlo Caparas para sumulat ng script para sa part 2 ng Isang Bala Ka Lang?Starring Mang Turing and madam Pacifica sa Pabrika ng condom at gatas, hehehehe.
hmmm kung taxes din lang bakit po kaya hindi pinupuna yung mga mayayamang may foundation?
napaga alaman ko lang po kama kailan lang na ang mga mayayamang ito ay gumagawa ng mga foundation, charity etc na kunwari tumutulong (daw) sa mahihirap yun pala parang ito ang nagsisilbing banko nila dahil na rin hindi pala sinisingil ng tax ang mga organizations na ito.
kung baga eh lahat ng yaman nila kunwario nasa foundation para hindi cla magtatax ng malaki.
wel, ayoko pong mag drop names for sure may mga naglalaro ng mga tao sa isip niyo kung sino sino na ang mga ito. hehe. yun lang po.
ms kim, tama ka nga naghahanap ng kakampi si renato sa aking tahanan. pinapasok ko man siya pero hindi ibig sabihin ay tinatanggap ko ang pagkatao niya.
nwei, wag nalang pa apekto kay renato dahil kung pinansin pa natin ang mga litanya niya for sure naging matagumpay siya sa misyon niya.
ayun lang. hehe.
;-)
Matt. 22:17-22
“Tell us therefore what do you think, Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?”
But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said. “Why do you test Me, you hypocrites? Show me the tax money.”
So they brought Him a denarius.
And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?”
They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”
And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s.”
When they had heard these words, they marveled, and left Him and went their way.
It is time for the church to reconsider their position, its about time they should pay taxes on church’s economic endeavors. Let their spiritual activities remain tax free (because that is for Jesus) but their businesses should pay taxes (because that is Caesar’s).
Because God admonish paying of taxes, the government officials should also be transparent, honest, and judicious in spending the taxpayer’s money.
Walang dapat na sinasanto sa pagbabayad ng buwis. Katungkulan ng bawat nilalang ang magbayad ng kanilang buwis. Pero katungkulan din ng gobierno na ibalik ito in terms of services.
This is the irony of it, those wealthy people who are supposed to pay a large sum of money from their huge income are exempted to a certain extent from paying the full amount they should have paid because they channeled a portion of their income to charities, and it is tax free.
Who could change the law, who could sponsor a bill that negates income donated to charities as tax free?
Maganda itong comment ni Colegiala hango mula sa aral ng Bibliya. Tutoo pong kailangan nating magbayad ng buwis. Opinyon ko lang naman po ito, siguro pagdating sa mga religious services ay dapat tax free ito sa mga simbahan. Pero sa mga negosyo kagaya ng canteen, kapehan, computer shop, recreational center, hotel, etc. kung saan ang mga tao ay sinisingil siguro maman ay hindi na tax free dito.
Nangangailangan din po kasi ang mga simbahan ng proteksiyon at serbisyo ng gobyerno kaya dapat lang na singilin sila ng buwis mula sa kanilan malalaking kita.
Salamat po at peace time na sa CD, hahaha. Godbless na lang po sa inyong lahat.
Anong tawag niyo sa mga hindi nagbabayad ng buwis? Buwisit.
Saan at ano ang blog ni Yhen? Marami siguro siyang pera sa Japan. Marami siyang Yen.
And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s.”
….. Sa palagay ko, kaya hindi nagbabayad ng buwis ang mga simbahan sa atin kasi hindi Caesar ang pangalan ng Pangulo.
Si Gloriang Pandak ang pekeng pangulo natin.
Renato is proposing a challenge.
Come and get it Renato.Bring it on and select any topic you wish.I’m sure you can’t wave your wand.
Cocoy,
Ano ba ang challenge, current issues/topic/events o personal issues ? Kayang-kaya ninyo pero bakit papatulan…hug na lang siya, heheh!
Chi,
Binisita ko si Yhen at nandoon si Renato nagdadabog at naglalabas ng sama ng loob.Hehehehe!
O, ganun ba? Sige at bibisitahin ko si Renato dun at malaman kung ano na naman ang ipinagmamaktol. heheh!
Churches’ tax exemption prevents unnecessary and complicated legal tangles. At the moment, the tax-exempt status of a church gives groups a strong incentive to declare themselves to be religious organizations, which inevitably leads to protracted legal battles over whether a given organization is a church or not. (The space alien cult of Scientology’s multi-year legal battle with the U.S. government to win tax-exempt status is a case in point.) This policy puts the government in the unenviable position of having to set policy on exactly what constitutes a religion.
Dumaan ako sa tindahan ni Yhen at nasa kabilang kalye lang pala. May matatambayan na ako kapag magsawa ako dito sa CD. May hitsura pala si Yhen…maganda ang mga mata at lalo iyong legs niya. Naka-short siya ng dumaan ako.
cocoy,
I’m now watching Destination Truth at SciFi channel and it features the Pinatubo Lake in Zambales.
The Scifi team investigates the pinatubo monster (a fish like creature) in the lake. Ipinakita ang church roof na nalubog, etc.
Tingnan mo minsan ang schedule sa SciFi, palagi naman itong ipinalalabas these days, after lunch.
Ate Chi, may nararamdaman ka ba dito? Parang may masamang ispiritu pa rin. Habang nagta-type ako ng isang kamay, iyong ibang kamay ko hawak ang isang Krus.
Iyong SciFi team na nakakita ng Pinatubo Monster, kilala ko kung sino iyon. Kundi Pineda ang pangalan ay Arroyo.
artsee,
Baka ang nararamdaman mo ay ang pagmumura ni renato na walang letra.
Sa end ng SciFi, yun palang monster na kinatakutan ng mga Zambales fishermen ay school of tilapia na pagkahaba-haba. heheh!
Oo, ang monster sa Pinatubo lake ay manifestation ni Pineda at Arroyo.
Naniniwala ka pala sa mga Science Fiction. Naniniwala ka ba sa UFO at mga tungkol sa aliens from outer space? Hilig ko iyan. Napanood at nabasa ko ang lahat na tungkol diyan. Hindi kaya itong si Renato ay galing sa ibang planeta gaya ng Mars?
aba aba, sir artsee bolero ka pala ha… hehehe…
naway, tumambay ka lagi doon…
para sa iyo may libreng meryenda ka na… dmo na kailangang icharge ke sir cocoy… hehe…
feeling ko lang ha, cguro hindi napagbigayan nung isang gabi si renato kaya naghihimutok… hehehe…
peace po…
magandang araw po sa lahat!
Ano ba ang challenge ni ka Rene Pacifier pareng Cocoy? Gusto niya makipagdebate? May go signal na ako kay Banong, tutal pinalaki siya ng pagmumura ng kanyang amahin kaya sanay na itong humarap kay kuya Rene.
Artsee,
Nabalitaan mo na ba ang mga spaceship na naglalanding sa Mt. Banahaw? Hanggang ngayon ay patuloy pa rin ang pananalisiksik ng mga Pinoy na mahihilig sa mga ganitong phenomena. May mga medium pa nga silang sinasabi ng nakakausap ang mga aliens.
Minsan sa pagbabasa ko ng mga sinulat ni Ka Jaime ng Innermind, may nabanggit siya tungkol sa negative energy. Posibling nakapag-iwan ng negative energy dito si Ka Rene na siya mong nasagap dahil nakasagutan mo siya ng matagal. Kailangan nating dito ang isang magaling na exorcist. Baka puwedi si Ka Greg with his mighty finger to drive away those negative energy, hahaha.
Baka puwedi ring gamitin dito ni Kimuchi ang kanyang galing bilang isang medium. Medium built na pangangatawan, medium size na boobs, medium size na legs, etc. hehehe. At higit sa lahat medium na kuwan… I mean energy receptor, haha.
Kapitan Kidlat, sa iba ang ginagamit ni Greg iyong mighty finger niya…at hindi sa medium size lang.
Cancel daw ang debate nina Cocoy at Renata dahil sa financial crisis.
Yhen, you’re welcome. Talaga naman maganda ka…kaya lang medyo malayo-layo ang agwat ng edad natin. 28 na kasi ako.
Kapag nandito ka, libre ka din sa lahat. Huwag kang mahiya. Io-offset na lang namin ni Cocoy doon sa inyo sa mga kinain namin.
Yhen,
There is very little I can do about your guest Renato. He is not willing to communicate rationally and thus effectively deprive himself from the wisdom accumulated by others. He allow his egos to consume his minds and bodies and cage himself in small habitual cells in which he can feel safe. People like him do not accept logic. When pressed to use logic, He will frequently attempt to move the talk away from the topic at hand.
I meditate a lot to be able to keep my kind of level of calm, peace, and clarity during his emotionally heated argument with some CD bloggers. I have to figure out how to confront Renato. Lately, I feel like my brain died, leaving nothing but rotten emotions behind.
I can imagine myself helping this man cure his mental ills as well as helping himself all he want, but the fact is, He is probably doing nothing more than feeding his ego of a super-human-never-lose-any-word-battle- martial arts master.He is yours Yhen enjoy him and good luck.Hehehehe!
I am thinking of writing about him on my next topic.Hehehe!
Pareng Cocoy,
Hindi kita masisisi kung magsasawa ka talaga kay renato.Kung matatandaan mo pa ang comment ko sa kanya na ang ganyang klaseng tao ay wala ng pagbabago.Sa katunayan naiiinis ako sa comment niya na pinupuri niya si Satanas.
Oo nga nabasa ko doon sa blog ni Yhen na mga idiot daw ang mga bloggers ng CD pati ikaw isinama.Biruin mo tinangap mo siya ng maayos dito tapos sasabihin pang idiot ka.Nabasa ko rin ang challenge mo sa kanya.Hanga ngayon ay hinihintay ko ng magkasubukan na kayo.Ipupusta ko pati balae ko sa iyo dahil mangangamote si Taning sa iyo.Hahahahaha!
Magpaserba ako ng upuan sa front row kapag mag showdown na kayo.
Nabasa ko nga na ni-lift mo ang ban niya dito kung makikipagdebate siya sa iyo.
We too I tried to understand Renato using all available socio- behavioral science tools at our disposal but there is nothing else we can do with his display of arrogance, hatred, and pernicious ways. He has hardened up his heart, more or less his pride, in a manner he could no longer see what is morally and socially acceptable.
He has completely dissociated himself from well established social norms and decorums of the society expected of an honorable and civilized person as he should be. He places himself to a pedestal where he speaks without impunity malining and ridiculing his own people. Yes, he did not only betray the Filipinos but his “pathetic self” unmasking his ignorance and deplorable barbaric ways.
It is him who isolated himself, nothing else to blame but his insurmountable ego. Unless he regains his civility and sensibility, he better be confined to isolation so he could not spread the virus of lewedness and negativism that may degenerate the moral fiber of the Philippine Society.
Manong Cocoy,
I think you did the right thing nang when you decided to ban Renato from posting damaging comments in the CD.
Sabi nga ni Kap, walang katuturan na patulan daw si Renato dahil nawawala sa katinuan. Ewan ko ng ba kung bakit ganyan ang taong iyan. Hanggang CD ay dala pa rin niya ang kanyang galit kay Manang Ellen.
Natatawa lang ako dahil binigyan niyo pa si yhen ng aalagaang matanda, ahayyyy kulapo.
Cocoy ha! That’s so very deep. hahaha!
In short, renato is an ego-tripper. Walang gamot dyan!
Wow! Ang galing ni colegiala…
At idiots daw ang CD bloggers, heheh.
Korek ka cocoy, kaya ganyan ang istilo ni Pacifica ay dahil hindi kayang makipag-debate na logic and reason ang ginagamit. Pathetic!
Dapat sa kanya ay kausapin, ngitian at tapikin ang sarili sa harap ng salamin.
Cocoy,
Huwag masyadong heavy, baka hindi maintindihan nung tao. heheh!
Hindi pa niyan dumarating si joeseg from his extended vacation!
Chi,
Inilalabas ko lang ang mga natutunan ko kay Pareng Joeseg. Si Pareng Joeseg ang “Sir” ko sa English.Hehehehe!
Sorry po, I have just come from a two-day workshop on Filipino values. I also participated in a round table discussion on reproductive health. I am glad single women are now becoming more interested on the issues reproductive health.
By the way, critics of the Reproductive Health Bill are against the allocation of some 2 billion pesos no taxpayers money just to buy condoms for Family Planning should the bill pass to a law.
Mga kapatid magingat lang kayo sa pagbili ng gatas baka galing ito sa China. Tignan mo nga naman ang mga ibang tao, basta kumita lang ng pera kahit anong panlalamang ay ginagawa. Ngayon buong industriya ng gatas sa China ang napinsala. Sarap na sarap pa naman din tayong kumain ng white rabbit na candy, hehehe.
Saan kaya nanggagaling iyong gatas na iniinum ni Manong Joeseg. I mean country, like Australia, Canada, US, Europe,etc. Happy vacation Manong Joe.
Bakit ba ayaw ng critics ng RHB kahit condom?! Nakakainis na a!
2 bilyon lang para sa condom ayaw pa. Samantalang sobra-sobra dito ay napupunta sa bulsa ng mga corrupt leaders. wa-ayyyyyyy!
If the critics are against the use of P2B from the taxpayers money, get the amount from Pagcor. Ang Pidal at CBCP lang ba ang may karapatan sa Pagcor money? Letse!
Ayaw nila pati na ang simbahan ng condom…ang gusto lang nila ay condominium.
I’m solving a puzzle.
Sino naman kaya yong biglang sulpot na Putanginamo Renato? Bigla ring nawala? Ban din ba sya sa CD? Hindi kaya yun si Magno Rivera na miss na miss na natin?
The Church as an organization as other religious orgnanizations, are exempt from taxes..priests, however, who do belong to a religious order (Jesuits, Dominicans, Franciscans, etc.) do not pay nor file an income tax as they have a vow of power…diocesan priests however, file and pay income taxes..but they sure have a good tax accountant who knows the law. I am talking of here in the US..I don’t know if in the Phil. Cardinal Rosales, Vdidal etc. file or pay income taxes..Many diocesan priests here do have investments in stocks, properties, etc. Just this morning I asked our pastor (who was my boss before) if he has AIG stocks..wala daw..
Ate Rose, ang Monte De Piedad Bank sa Manila ay pag-aari ng Simbahang Katoliko. Balita noon si Cardinal Sin ang may-ari. Suwerte nga ang mga taga Simbahan sa RP. Lahat na tinatanggap ng mga Pari at abuloy galing sa mga pulitiko at gambling lords ay walang tax. Kung baga’y net ang pera…walang bawas kahit singko.
Ate Chi, ewan ko ba. Matagal ko na nga din hinahanap si Mang Rivera. Etong si Renato, parang si sumulong din. Kasi biglang nawala din si sumulong. Umurong yata…
Artsee: Monte Piedad at Bank of PI din ata..mayaman talaga ang Catholic Church…hindi ba ang sabi mayaman ang Vatican…dito sa JC almost all income of the church..donations, regular or bequests are assessed and 6% goes to the Archdiocese..hamak mo yon..puera lang kong sa will it is indicated for a particularly purpose..May namatay na parishioner sa HR the last in the family walang heirs..ibinigay niya sa HR ang 25%..and about $300,000 ang napunta sa simbahan. At that time may utang ang HR sa Arch…so bayad ang utang..but inspite of the wealth ng simbahan panay pa din ang paghingi..para sa ganito para sa ganyan but it is not only the Catholic Church.. ang ibang simbahan ata ay may fixed amount for tithing..oh well..